Honestly now, I enjoy seeing content as much as the next guy. I do like to get shiny lewts and it makes me giddy like a 4 year old sometimes.
But realistically, if you raid consistently and put in the out of raid time to go and farm to increase your potential to the group; you are looking at around 8-10 hours per instance generally. Don't plan on getting an item more than 16% of a time in any BC instance (this assumes you go every single time,aren't getting screwed over by randomness, and kill every boss every time.) So every 65ish hours of raiding you should be guaranteed an item right? Oh wait stop me now you "hardcore" people.
"Raiding is not about lewt"- I hate to break it to everyone, but hardly anyone raids for charity. Even if someone is... by extension they are there for helping someone else get loot. What reasons people want the loot differ of course, but this is one of those touchy issues that many dogmatic end-gamers will start vomiting out things that they consider facts of WoW -having done no actually research its almost always based entirely upon what they have heard from someone else. Its people like this who circulate urban legends and insist they are true, even in the face of evidence.
DADDY LONG LEGS ARE NOT FUCKING POISONOUS NOR DO THEY EVEN HAVE FANGS. THEY EAT CARRION AND PLANTS. >_>
Am I building up to a point here? Are you flasked and is everyone ready?
Casual raiding > Hardcore raiding
Go ahead and argue it. I've been to every raid instance in the game thus far aside Hyjal (fuck that attunement like dronens mom.) This includes all the "old school" Raids like MC,ZG,BWL,NAX,AQ20&40. Really I'd like to list Old scholo and strat which used to be endgame, but too few of us are around from those days and no one really cares. In any case...
The most fun and rewarding raids are those that don't feel like a second job. This is largely due to the aura of 'WE ARE SRYS RAIDERS" not being this looming cloud of lashes, just waiting for someone to strike down upon the unfortunate at the mildest of mistakes. No, this is much more like sitting in a room with people playing a party game and having Fun. Oh shnap, I said the F word in raiding.
Casual raids have slower progression sometimes, and may wipe a bit more. But as long as your among friends its a far more rewarding experience.
Hell, the most fun I have ever had in raiding was pugging Gruuls, SSC and BT on Tichondrius with only one guy I knew and the rest were just random people that wanted to go in for some quick loot. In grulls with 23 complete strangers we all outperformed most any guild I have ever seen set foot in there. No pots, flasks, or rigid class composition (this one priest was like half in greens) and we downed high king and grull within 20 mins, No deaths on high king or gruul. Few of us died on the pulls including a warlock who swore he could tank and was succeeding until he got charged twice lol.
Similar tales from SSC and BT except for the not dying. BT was partly cleared, so I don't know the first fight or two :/ but let me tell ya how much more relaxing it is to be among good players that don't really care about the politics so much as the fun. I can see this working for a guild as well, you just have to approach it the right way and snub people that start to take things to seriously. Let them go to "hardcore" guilds, don't worry they will probably be back ;).
PS. I didn't really get the frog :(
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You know, you have a really good sense of structure in your writing. Most people I know have to write outlines to get their thoughts to flow in a series of meaningful paragraphs.
Good for you, Honey!
Also, sorry about the frog.
Out of curiosity, how did you get into BT without stepping into Hyjal? As far as I know, you have to down at least the first boss in MH before you get to see BT. Was it different in the past?
"I hate to break it to everyone, but hardly anyone raids for charity."
This is true, but everyones reasons for raiding are a bit different. Some people raid for loot, realizing that the only way that they can get said loot is by logging countless hours of raid/farming time. Some people raid in order to see new content. Some people raid for the satisfaction of completing a complicated task as a group.
I guess I fall into all three categories. I'm in a guild that raids seriously, but only takes it semi-seriously... if that makes any sense. Raiding is fun for our guild. We joke around, laugh, play ridiculous music over vent, and bust each other's balls, all while getting our jobs done... whether those jobs be clearing farmed trash/bosses or working on new progression fights.
Yes, occasionally we have to have everyone STFU when we're losing focus and messing up, but on the whole I'd say most of our raid time is spent "productively goofing off." And it's not like we're progressing slowly through content. We first stepped foot in SSC and TK in late November. Now we're working on Archimonde.
Maybe I'm just fortunate. I've always wanted raiding to not feel like a job, and honestly right now it doesn't. In my last guild raiding was also casual, but so casual that we never made any progress. I certainly wouldn't want to be in a guild that sees raiding as a job and gauges its success solely on boss kills and loots.
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You are correct about attunement process for BT it has always been retarded since it hit live. I didn't clarify that my BT experience was on the test realm as the write was quite long enough and I don't enjoy detail mapping in posts that I think no one will ever read ;) For the record I have never set foot in Hyjal on any toon and have no idea what it entails nor have I been in BT on any live characters. That will change in 2.4 I am sure :)
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